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Electronic Ignition and 12 volt conversion

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Electronic Ignition and 12 volt conversion was created by steam_biker

I was having trouble with my DT3, it was misfiring, it kicked back on the kickstarter, I was worried that I would break my ankle with it.
I located a company in Germany who made a system for the DT3. They had sold out to another company called Vape.
It's now on my bike, it starts easily, doesn't kick back, I think it's an improvement. 
It isn't standard, but it makes the bike more usable as I enjoy riding it.
The only problem was that I had to take the battery box out to fit a 12 volt battery. 
It also gives you a brighter headlamp too.
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01 Feb 2021 10:06 #1

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Replied by Bartman512 on topic Electronic Ignition and 12 volt conversion

I'm considering doing this to my DT2 I'm building up. I noticed when you order the kit from Vape, it has a battery eliminator option. Was wondering why you would even need a battery if the lighting coil would power 12v lighting?
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01 Feb 2021 22:13 #2

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Replied by MarkT on topic Electronic Ignition and 12 volt conversion

Bartman512 wrote: I'm considering doing this to my DT2 I'm building up. I noticed when you order the kit from Vape, it has a battery eliminator option. Was wondering why you would even need a battery if the lighting coil would power 12v lighting?
 

"Battery eliminator option"?  Do you have a link?
Or are you talking about the AC kit versus the DC kit?
 
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Replied by Wessi on topic Electronic Ignition and 12 volt conversion

Hi Steam Biker,
i did the same, Vape/Powerdynamo 12v conversation on my ´75 DT and had the same experience. The Kick-back went from terrible to zero. I think due to more precise and more intense spark.. It really was worth the 300€ and the 180Watt charge power is great. I removed the oil tank/ battery case and welded it to extended by 5mm, so could fit a 2.3AH Battery.
@MarkT, you can chose using with or without Battery. Here a Link
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Replied by steam_biker on topic Electronic Ignition and 12 volt conversion

You can eliminate the battery, but if you have indicators fitted, they don't work properly. 
That's why I use a battery. The small square battery from some Honda CG125 bikes fits, but I had to remove the battery box. 
The only downside to the conversion is that I have to charge the battery sometimes. 
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Replied by AirborneSilva on topic Electronic Ignition and 12 volt conversion

I recently installed the VAPE 12 volt kit on my 76 DT400 and am glad I did! It was a pain in the butt to find a battery to fit and ended up getting this tinny little battery that probably wont last more than a year but it only cost $12 on amazon so no big deal. I would highly recommend converting to the 12 volt if anyone is thinking of doing it...
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02 Feb 2021 02:41 #6

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Replied by MarkT on topic Electronic Ignition and 12 volt conversion

Yes, I know you can run without a battery.  It doesn't work well with signals as already mentioned.,,  and it's technically not legal for street use in the USA without a battery.

I was confused by the wording of "when you order the kit from Vape, it has a battery eliminator option."   I'm still not sure what Bartman512 meant by that comment as Vape also offers an AC kit. 
 
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Replied by Makotosun on topic Electronic Ignition and 12 volt conversion

Mark, without me doing the conversion, do you know the approximate cost for a VAPE with shipping to the US?
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02 Feb 2021 07:33 #8

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Replied by MarkT on topic Electronic Ignition and 12 volt conversion

Sorry, I don't.  The last ones I bought were from Edgar at Powerdynamo before his health failed and he had to sell the company.

I did a comparison a while back and it was a lot cheaper to buy directfrom VAPE than from ebay or a dealer in the US that sells them.
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Replied by AirborneSilva on topic Electronic Ignition and 12 volt conversion

Makotosun wrote: Mark, without me doing the conversion, do you know the approximate cost for a VAPE with shipping to the US?
 

I ordered mine early December, with shipping it cost me $335.49 shipped to Florida. 
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