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[Help] with my '73 DT3 250, having ignition issues
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Replied by DEET on topic [Help] with my '73 DT3 250, having ignition issues
I can tell you from experience that, unless the coil is physically damaged, they don't go bad. There is never a reason to rewind an undamaged coil to make it work.
In this case (because of rewinding) the coils could be damaged beyond repair. You may need to buy another stator and start over.
I have restored hundreds of stators and have never needed to rewind a coil...or even suspect that it was wound wrong.
I have never needed to use an oscilloscope during a restoration.
If you would have sent in your stator for repair, you would have been riding a couple of weeks later.
This thread started in December and now it is about to be February... and you are still no closer to making spark.
I recommend you find another stator, leave it stock and start fresh. Or better yet, get another one, send it in, and when you get it back you will know that it will make spark and all the voltages.
Where the Yamaha Enduro is still a current model...
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1970 DT250C
1971 DT250E
1964 C100 / rally kit
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Replied by RT325 on topic [Help] with my '73 DT3 250, having ignition issues
I'm probably only holding up proceedings with my ideas but if all else fails it'd be nice to know if it sparks easily using a lighting coil wire fed back down the black from the top with source coil snipped off at the condenser.
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Replied by johnste1960 on topic [Help] with my '73 DT3 250, having ignition issues
In my research, I found out that a the ignition coil for a 77 and a 78 model had a different part number but the characteristics of the coil were fundamentally the same. What I found out is that a DIODE was added to block the spark in the reverse direction preventing the bike from running that way.
The coil from 1977 did not have a blocking diode in it.
Perhaps you have an ignition coil that has a blocking diode in it.
With a simple stator, when the rotor turns, the polarity should be one direction and if you turn the rotor in the opposite direction, the polarity is reverse.
If this is your case, you can possibly find a coil without a blocking diode, reverse the magnets (pole reversal), or rewind the stator with the windings the other way.
However, it seems to me the easiest approach would be to find another working stator.
good luck
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Replied by johnste1960 on topic [Help] with my '73 DT3 250, having ignition issues
See the Note:
drive.google.com/file/d/1h9lvibQojHIsVyK.../view?usp=share_link
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Replied by 19stuberd on topic [Help] with my '73 DT3 250, having ignition issues
Not quite done yet, though. I still have to re-integrate the stator wires into the wiring harness, seal up the flywheel case at the wire, actually mount the ignition coil, find where the ignition coil is actually supposed to wire into the harness, and put the battery back in (don't remember why I took it out, also don't remember how to put it back lol oops). Might also time the points right now that I can, as it sounds like MAYBE it's running a bit rough, but I'll let you be the judge.
I simply cannot overstate my gratitude to all of you who helped. I came to this forum with zero hope of fixing this bike and now with all of your help I get to experience the freedom of the open road. Not sure if all of you old heads remember what that's like, but to a 22 year old it means a whole lot. I might still post a couple more things about how to do the wiring but for the most part the case is cracked! Thanks for everything guys!
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Replied by RT325 on topic [Help] with my '73 DT3 250, having ignition issues
Friendly warning--just be a bit bit careful with ya #$%% language as it's part of the forum rules. Must admit i have to try hard at times to keep mine under control.
So now she's running & supposedly putting out 30 more winds of voltage--have a look in at the points in the dark shed when running & see how bright the arcing at the points 'is'. I guess you can't now compare with how it was in original form. If voltage is 'way too high', from my experience of using a lighting coil & voltage rising very high at revs, the arcing was 'wild' & caused misfiring & so went to the lowest output wire just experimenting. Anyway, congratulations & keep up the good work.
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