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Can a DT1MX piston be used in a DT1 cylinder?

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Greetings
I have a DT1 engine that needs freshening up.  I have a 2nd over DT1MX piston and ring on hand.  It would save me the price of piston and rings if I could use what I have.  Is this possible?  Is it a bolt-on or is some modification of parts required?
Thanks for your experience/advice.
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12 Apr 2021 09:57 #1

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Yep, goes straight in. Inlet skirt is a few mm shorter. Had one in mine & a 32mm 360 carb for a lifetime ya just reminded me. Goes extra good too.
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Replied by acf2x2000 on topic Can a DT1MX piston be used in a DT1 cylinder?

Thanks for the speedy/authoritative/positive reply.

You've made my day!

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12 Apr 2021 17:53 #3

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I should've said 'Welcome' from NZ down under. We mix n match all sorts of things down here lol, in my case because because i hate spending money if something will do. Think i've got a piston to take a pic of alongside original just for comparison.
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My only thought beyond Welcome! is to make sure both pistons are from either a piston port or a reed valve engine...  all 250's from 68-73 had engine numbers with the "DT1" prefix...  even the reed valve DT2 and DT3.  I don't think you'd want to put a reed valve piston in an earlier piston port or vice-versa.
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Replied by acf2x2000 on topic Can a DT1MX piston be used in a DT1 cylinder?

Thanks for your advice and comparative photo.  Since the skirt of the single-ring MX piston is slightly shorter than that of the civilian model, it seems to me as if that will open/close the intake and exhaust ports slightly earlier/later.  Correct?  If so, how does this affect the performance characteristics of the motor?

I have noticed that the info and discussions on this forum are of a relatively high order compared with most others I have read.  Very refreshing.

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Yes, opens it sooner & closes it later so more duration by a little. Hasn't done mine any harm, only good. Bigger carb probably helped though. Could do what i did to my other & put a 360 crank in but i guess you're working on a customers bike. The MX cylinder has a larger-taller inlet port to match the piston so at tdc its equal to the skirt at tdc. So in your case "& mine" the piston skirt goes above the inlet at tdc by the amount of skirt difference. When i used the 360 70mm stroke crank in the DT1 MX cylinder "on other bike" it was a close to being a problem as at bdc the MX single ring gap was 'just' showing in the inlet port, not completely but close & 'just' safe. Anyway, ignore all that as irrelevant to your original worry. My bad habit of wandering off the case lol.
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Replied by nhsteve on topic Can a DT1MX piston be used in a DT1 cylinder?

Agree on using the MX piston, paying proper attention to clearances and comments regarding reed valve vs. none reed.

The shop I worked at saw a lot of MX'ers get used in sand pits once the monoshockers came out. We would often (with their understanding) use the enduro piston to replace the MX piston. There was a price difference then, and the second ring would give them better wear and longevity, which was more desirable since they were by that time playbikes, and not real competitive.
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